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Reply to Conservative on Unions, WHAT? Part 3

No Unions, REALLY?!?

No Unions, REALLY?!?

The initial question posted by Warren Drew

Given the fight later today over final passage of a right to work law in Michigan, I figured it might be worthwhile to mention a couple things about right to work.

First, right to work laws do not prohibit unions.  They merely allow workers to decline to join a union.  There are plenty of unions in right to work states.

Second, right to work laws do not appear to reduce wages.  The state with the highest wages for assembly line workers is Alabama, a right to work state.  The metro areas with the highest wages are Tuscaloosa and Spartanburg, both in right to work states.  BLS figures from here:


Right to work laws just keep the unions honest, and make them work for the workers rather than just for the union bosses.  From the standpoint of industry, they just balance out federal laws that are very much prounion.

My reply to Warren Drew

+Warren Dew
Your posting of surface information is not beneficial to those who are not aware of the financial implications of right-to-work-for-less laws (RTWFL).

The first point is partially true; it does not prohibit unions; it ONLY allows workers benefit from the unions activism on their behalf without paying into the very union that created the benefits that they enjoy. You know to loosely use an analogy; it like eating going into McDonalds, eating a Big Mac, and not paying for it. Fair right?

Your second point is also only true on the surface. While what you stated may be correct on the surface when you really look the facts it is deceiving to be kind. The United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics, Occupational Employment Statistics state that Occupational Employment and Wages Estimates shows median hourly wages of all the Right to Work States (RTW) and all the Collective-Bargaining States (CBS) as follows:

In all occupations RTW states median wage is $15.31/hour and in collective bargaining states it’s $16.89/hour a difference of -$1.58/hour (-9.4%)

Middle school teacher salaries are $49,306/year in RTW states while in collective bargaining states its $55,863/year a difference of $6557/year (-11.7%)

In the Computer related field RTW states salaries are $46,306/year while in collective bargaining states its $50,641/year a difference of $4335/year (-8.6%).

As painful as they me be; those are the FACTS (partisanship aside)! Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states, the rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states, and the rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states

I speculate that the reason for RTWFL (right to work for less) laws is to weaken unions, create a higher profit for companies at the expense of the workers, and to establish unfair leverage for the employee over an isolated worker.  My source; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Policy_Institute

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